How to trick your bartender into pouring a taller drink
There is nothing, in this economy, like a tall, stiff drink at the end of a work day.
Though once more, there’s that disclaimer: in this economy. With many belts still tightened since the downturn, drinking at a bar isn’t exactly an exercise in reserved spending.
There may be one way, however, you can nudge your way to a little free booze at a bar, even if you don’t have the musk of Jon Hamm or the body of Betty White.
All it takes is a little behavioural economics.
If you’re not the kind to flirt with a bartender, getting respect when you’re belly-up can be tough. But try this little ruse:
*Bing: What is the legal blood alcohol limit in your province?
According to the book Mindless Eating by Brian Wansink, the author explains how the shape of a glass greatly affects how much liquid we pour into it.
By a study cited in the tome, Wansink notes that you or I or bartenders tend to skimp on the amount we pour into tall, long glasses, while it may well be Niagara Falls when stouter glasses are used.
How much more gets put in shorter, fatter glasses? As much as 20 to 30 per cent more, according to the study.
So cover up that tramp stamp and take the motorcycle helmet off the bar. In order to con your way into some free alcohol at a bar, try asking for your booze to be poured into a short, fat glass and see if the con pays off.
By Jason Buckland, MSN Money
Posted by: Tiredncrankey | Mar 27, 2021 1:41:30 PM
Not going to happen, bartenders have pour spouts that put out a certain amout of liquid per count. Each drink has a formula and most bars 1 type of glass for 1 type of drink.
I can count on one hand how many time I have been to a bar in the last 5 years and I know it's not going to pay off.
It's not to say it isn't true about getting 30% in a short glass, I just know that any bar out to make money measures the amount of alcohol in each drink.
Posted by: putasmileon | Mar 28, 2021 4:25:49 PM
I get more booze just by being nice to the bartender. Treat her well and when her boss isn't looking, you get 2 shots instead of 1. it works tiredandcrankey.
Posted by: J Gilles | Mar 28, 2021 11:37:41 PM
What is the point here? Many bars I go to pour alcohol from a bottle into a shot glass, and they usuually overfill and spill almost double what they should. And even when they don't, or use the pour spouts that "Tiredncranckey" mentioned, why would you want to "trick" the bartender? Are some people that hard up that they need to resort to this?
Posted by: tosaur | Mar 29, 2021 12:30:45 AM
Or you could order a draft beer. Huge cup, lots of alchohol.
They can't skimp out on alchohol when you get beer or wine.
Also, never order girly mixed drinks. My boyfriend is a bartender and he says they normally only put a half shot in those and most people don't notice because the people who order them aren't drinkers and its too sweet to taste anyways, but they still charge you the same.
If you want free drinks, make friends with the owner. They usually want to drink, they want you to come back, and they will have a shot with you.
Posted by: chronic | Mar 29, 2021 1:33:19 AM
Does this work for my weed dealer if I ask for my bud in smaller shorter bags?
Posted by: sumgai | Mar 29, 2021 3:15:32 AM
So, any idiot, with no experience on anything, can write an artical that isn't true??
How do I get this job?
Posted by: deandean766@hotmail.com | Mar 29, 2021 5:56:38 AM
So the company ( Microsoft ) that hates getting ripped of by people who copy/download/steal software is allowing articles about stealing/deception to be posted on its website?
Nice.
Posted by: LT | Mar 29, 2021 8:50:22 AM
Certain drinks get made in certain glasses anyway. Trying to trick someone instead of being nice is a douchy thing to do.
Posted by: lightning | Mar 29, 2021 9:41:51 AM
Body of Betty White? Don't you mean Betty Draper? Betty White is a Golden Girl.
Posted by: Yamin | Mar 29, 2021 9:56:41 AM
I am muslim, i do not drink so it does not matter to me.
Posted by: Darcy P. | Mar 29, 2021 10:02:00 AM
I remember the old days when a shot was 2 oz. What is it now 1 1/4 or even 1?
The markup on alcohol is HUGE they can afford to give some extra every now and then anyways.
Try telling them it's your birthday. Usually good for a few free drinks.
Posted by: Gavin | Mar 29, 2021 11:00:30 AM
You get more honey from bees by looking after them than you do by kicking over the hive. Idiots everywhere seem to tell everyone to trick their bartender/car salesman/insurance agent/lawyer etc. They all forget that being nice to someone usually gets you a hell of a lot further than trying to trick someone, that just pisses us off and makes us want to help you less.
Posted by: greg | Mar 29, 2021 12:40:28 PM
I own a bar and have put in an automatic liquor dispenser to prevent this kind of stupidity. With the increased costs of buying liquor, taxes, overhead, damage and theft, the profit has shrunk to where every penny counts.
By the way, the author is an idiot.
Posted by: Wow | Mar 29, 2021 12:49:30 PM
So none of this article is true. I would hope the author did not get paid for this.
I have worked and operated restaurants for 20 years and I can tell you that the one reader was correct and most places use spouts that control the pour. It doesn't matter if you ask for a shot glass, a cocktail glass, a tall glass, a martini glass or a pitcher. Consequently, in restaurants if you pour a regular highball glass into a tall glass they are usually about the exact same. Tall glasses make people think they are getting more mix but generally they are close to the same size.
The other reader was correct about 'girly drinks'. Bartenders will usually shortpour these types of drinks especially ones that use vodka. Mentally they keep track of the ounces that are shorted so they can pour a drink for themselves or their friends or regulars.
Some places will have a 'promo' bottle of liquor so bartenders can offer free drinks here and there to people that are there all the time etc.
The one way the author tells you how to get more liquor is so far wrong I had to write. The author clearly has not had a business of his own otherwise he would not be trying to come up with ways to make a business lose money when they don't 'intend' to promo a drink. The problem with people today is that they have no ethics. This article is clearly written for people that have no ethics and spend more time trying to screw systems than its worth.
Posted by: Linda | Mar 29, 2021 1:08:23 PM
A bartender being tricked into cheating/stealing from their employer when the success rate of a business in the hospitality industry not good is below low. The article and the subsequent comments make the busy bartender mindless and easily munipulated. They (article/comments) also lend toward employee being female.
deandean766 makes the best point here and so does Gavin.
I do not work in this industry but I do have respect for hard working people on their feet all day, rushing, many of them walking on cement. Many end up in physical therapy having health issues relating to knee, legs, etc.
(Think I'll go find some Microsoft software to download free from someone easily manipulated. After all, as one person commented, you know the mark-up on that! Just joking re: the download-don't comment. All of this article is in bad taste, poor subject choice or slant.
Posted by: Cobb | Mar 29, 2021 2:43:20 PM
JUST BUY YOUR DAMNED BOOZE AT A LIQUOR STORE AND DRINK AT HOME YOU LAZY CHEAP BASTARDS ! jeezy petes its cheaper and you dont have to deal with that one asshole who goes to everyone sitting at the bar and asks "can you buy me a drink?". i MEAN what in the world ever happened to staying in at night with a nice home made martini and watching a classic 007 movie?
Posted by: many | Mar 29, 2021 3:25:36 PM
Worst. Article. Ever.
Guess they needed some filler for todays issue.
Posted by: dean | Mar 29, 2021 3:31:02 PM
Darcy P ; It cost a fortube to run a business, Jus the rent/mortgage and utilities are very costly. Add in wages/theft etc and it is required to make a profit off off the booze. Your boss making a profit is what pays your salary.
Posted by: smartassgirl1962 | Mar 29, 2021 3:39:11 PM
As a bartender, I find this article offensive in the extreme, Bartenders get a bad enough rap in the industry as it is, and this kind of crap doesn't help at all. Most bars use a measured pour system, either by a gun or meaured pour spouts, so it makes no difference what size glass you use. The only thing the size glass makes is how much you taste the alcohol (i.e. how much MIX goes in the glass, not alcohol.)
Posted by: Disgrace | Mar 29, 2021 4:14:57 PM
Jason Buckland, I'm ashamed you come from London. My bowels produce more usefull crap then you do.
Posted by: J.C. | Mar 29, 2021 5:40:26 PM
Cobb,
You're saying the person who wrote this is "a lazy cheap bastard" then you go on to tell them its cheaper to buy a bottle & mix drinks at home in the next sentance. Cheap bastards. I think sitting at home drinking & watching 007 seems lazier than going out to a bar & perhaps dancing or maybe playing pool. At least you would be on your feet instead of a couch. I agree the article is stupid & pointless and the fact microsoft is endorsing trying to screw a bartender for a little free booze is kind of funny considering how upset they get if someone "steals" from them.
Posted by: Carmen | Mar 29, 2021 6:50:00 PM
Being in this business for over 26 years I will tell you the best way to get more booze...ie: a free drink or an over pour...Be nice to the server or bartender..You may not get that free drink the first few times you are at an establishment but you eventually will at some time..Trust me..
Posted by: Elle | Mar 29, 2021 7:29:33 PM
You're not getting more alcohol, you getting a higher ratio of alcohol to mix. So you feel like your drink in a shorter glass is stronger because, in essence it is. A one ounce shot in an 8 ounce glass leaves only 7 ounces for mix. A one ounce shot in a 16 ounce glass leaves 15 ounces for mix. (I'm not using any standard of bar glass size, if there is one, but you should be getting the idea).
As mentioned before, pretty much the only way you're actually going to get more, is if the bartender decides to put an extra shot in (or they're eyeballing it anyway - and I don't think this happens very often anymore... ).
Good Luck charming them into the extra shot.
Posted by: hilarious | Mar 29, 2021 9:34:59 PM
seems as though they made a catchy title to grab viewers (like us), and then had to poop out some non-sensical jargon to fill it with; worse than rick-rolling, at least that has some mild entertainment value.... this is just junk. even a picture of some stupid reality tv star would spruce this article up some.
Posted by: wisegal | Mar 30, 2021 2:03:29 AM
This article is offensive in the extreme. The last thing we need is people drinking more alcohol per drink - how is a server to know when a patron has been overserved? Scamming the bartender into stealing from his employer is dishonest, unethical and another sign of how people always seem to want to "get over" rather than just play by the rules.
And to "sumgai", probably the best way to start thinking about writing articles would be learning to spell - a good start anyway.
I have to say I'm really disappointed that Microsoft would allow publcation of this article on how to steal in a section of their site allegedly offered to help people learn to manage their money better. It says nothing good about Microsoft - a company that could certainly use a more positive reputation.
And to Mr. Buckland - shame on you!
Posted by: What? | May 22, 2021 12:21:48 PM
Why is everyone saying this is theft? It's not. You go up, ask for your drink in a wide glass, and you pay for it. Theft would be taking the alcohol off the shelf and pouring yourself a glass. Theft would be leaving without paying or convincing the bartender that you already paid for it. Theft is not asking for a glass in which amounts are harder to judge. Did you even read the article?