Just one week to go before HST hike

HST Stands for How Stupid Thing I just can't understand this greedy goverment, they are bunch of Vimpires, making us work even harder till we bleed to death, may be that's what they want, so we die early, so they don't have to pay old age pension plan

Yes, sign up at "stop the hst." It's not hard to find and you don't have to use your name.
However, this is the liberals for you. Taxes seem to be their answer to everything.
We need a new direction. NOT McGuinty.

TOtally agree with Lise....people running our country spends like their banks are bottomless and the tax-payers are left to pay.......we should all stage a revolt against all the new taxex......and vote the mcGuinty government out.....

I was a happy conservative.Not anymore. Not likeing the liberals I guess the NDP will gain another vote.This may give them a littel more clout if enough of us have this attitude but not likely they will win an election----unfortunatly

Sounds like everyone is just listening to the Anti-HST rhetoric without examining the facts. HST brings an outdated tax system into the 21st Century- in every other province that has brought in the HST, retail prices have actually dropped as a result! This is GOOD for consumers in the medium and long-term! Plus take a look when you file your 2010 taxes next year- because of the HST, your income taxes have gone down. Pay more for luxuries like cars, gym memberships and other non-necessities, and then save on your hard-earned income. Sounds good to me!
Plus, I've gotta say- if you want education, health care, police, infrastructure like good roads etc, then be ready to pay taxes. It's a big country with a lot of bills to pay, and THATS what your taxes are for!

So they raise taxes to compensate for their over spending, and now they want to sell the LCBO, OLG, and Hydro One to private companies to balance their over spending also. F-ing government, they just screw us every way they can. Whatever happened to democracy, you know where the people have the say? We voted these a**holes into office and they should be doing what we want, not what they want. People are broke enough, now if they privatize all those things, prices are definitely going to go up and make life worst for everyone. This is the governments fault and it should be fixed at their expense, not ours.

This is the biggest tax grab yet! PLease tell me how this is going to make us more competetive and create jobs in this province...I don't understand ...We need to get rid of this Liberal government..but will the next one address this issue?? It is time for us to become more vocal and not be so complacent and not allow this to happen again..where do we sign?

Goods rarily decrease in prices, it is an essential part of a good economy. Yes the McGuinty government has lowered income taxes but Flaherty has already hinted at an increase in federal taxes and the CPP. So you add that increase and the increase to services such as Hyrdo, Gas, meals out, entertainment, alcohol and you end up paying a lot more. (Not to mention, why are prisoners getting the bribe cheques ...or transition cheques as the provincial liberals have referred to them.)

Both the provincial and federal governments are spending Canadians into a very tough spot...why build a fake lake when Ontario has 250,000 freshwater lakes with many located no where near the G8/G20. Why bail out failing companies...the auto industry, only to let other industries fail.

Yes taxes are necessary and I have no problem paying them, but I do have a problem paying for the stupid, unnecessary mistakes made by both the provincial and federal governments in these last few years. If they want to spend a few billion dollars why don't they give all the troops a raise, higher more doctors, improve health care and invest in alternative sources of energy like becoming a major producer or solar power- that's how Canada can make a big impact in the 21st century.

but what nothing in the report mentions that it was the federal government that allowed the hst in the beggining by passing legeslation that made it legal for the provincial governments to impose it. so while all the noise made on the west coast is being heard, its only the provincial MLA's that are receiving the brunt of the anti-hst movement. start emailing your local MP as well, raise as much noise as possible. Let your government know that how you truly feel about this cash grab

Illitrate people like YOU all vote for these Liberals.

They have screwed us in the past, they are screwing us now.. and will continue to screw us up coz they know ppl are in Ont, specially toronto are indifferent bunch of illitrates who just vote Liberal.. coz it 'sounds fancy' and their friends vote them too!

Guys! smarten up!

Guys,

There is ONE SIMPLE SOLUTION to reclaiming your FREEDOM from this fascistic and oppressive government (Imagine that; they take half of YOUR SALARY away from you, take 15% sales tax off every item - even though it is recycled as it passes through multiple hands and they steal the value of your money through inflation by printing money that they use out of thin air)... and we are to bend over and take it?

NO.

WHAT TO DO? Simple.

Take you money OUT OF THE BANKING SYSTEM! That's right. Go to your bank and yank out $10,000, $100,000. Everything you can. The measly 1-2% interest they pay you is the price you pay for your FREEDOM.

If 10 million people (1/3 of the population) withrew only $10,000 out of the bank - that's a $100 BILLION dollar economy in the hands of the PEOPLE! Cannot be taxed. Cash society. Use your CASH before it's too late.

This is better than voting, it is better than petition (a wate of time). This is TRUE POWER back in your hands. TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BANKS (legally, when you deposit money in a bank it ceases to be yours - all your receive is 1-2% and a promise to repay. Of course, the bank is banking on most people never coming to withdraw their actual money. It's all debits and credits. It's a scam based on fear).

Whoever voted Liberal is to blame for all this bullshit. I can safely say I voted NDP, regardless of the outcome. Vote with your heart, not because your friends are doing the "cool" thing. You fucked us all in the end. We need a bigger voice in Canada, we're a bunch of complacent morons when it comes to new things being incorporated by our lame government.

no point in venting anymore.

Seeing the trend of the society.. im sure the next goverment is liberal too!

coz ppl will not realize the implications until it hits their paychecks and savings.

A large enough hit that my vote will be anything other than conservative from the municipal level to the fed level of gov't. Time for Ont tax payers to speek out call your local mpps for a start, enough is enough.

I don't mind paying taxes for services, I hate to see my money wasted. Remember McGuinty told us he would not increase taxes. Then put in a tax levy for health care and now we have the HST to deal with. What needs fixing is the bureaucracy in this country and the lack of leadership. Increasing taxes with no direction is a waste of my money. I don't mind moving to this century, J Pasic, I just wish that they would do it responsibly.

This is nothing but a tax grab by BC Liberals because they don't have the intelligence to run a calculator to balance a budget and watch their spending.
They took a HUGE salary increase, which they did not deserve and even during the recessions worst months they never took a roll back.
All this is about is taxpayers bailing out an incompetent governing body!
A recall is inevitable out here, and too bad Ontario can't react like we can and are!!!

I fear that any protest falls on deaf ears and detracts from our own quality of life as we stress over things like the HST. It is just one example of many injustices wrought upon the people that pay the bills; Us.

Opressive rules make criminals of us all. I for one will be quite happy to pay my furnace repair person in cash, no receipt required; no HST added. By the same token, I will be happy to provide the service that I provide to my clients under the same conditions.

The end result of course is a vast grey market that exists because the "legal" way of doing it is too opressive. This is already a large sector of the economy and results in the collection of less tax for the government to use in providing the services we require. Services such as the recent fake lake in Toronto or the many junkets to foreign countries by our MPs and MPPs.

Oh wait, we don't require either one of those activities, sorry, my mistake.

N. Pasic--Go and read up about the HST please...before you decide to like it.
I have no problem with "blending"...to help businesses in paperwork. However, do you realize that now you will have higher gas and hydro bills. Also, it isn't JUST the rich renovating their homes. Also, it's NOT just the rich that get their hair done. I do NOT consider all these things "luxury" items.
Ontarions don't get angry enough to do anything. So, my next hope is that Tim Hudak gets voted in, in the next provincial election. HE is talking about lowering the HST. All I can say is, that is better than nothing at all.

If I knew that there was a movement in Ontario similar to the one in BC I'd be in! I'm a single parent working my ass off just to keep the lights turned on and gas in the car while I put myself through school...the LAST thing I need is to pay a higher rate on things like basic phone, hydro, food and fuel! I can't even afford to get my hair done NOW....damned if I'll be able to afford it after July 1st. My wages sure as hell aren't going up by 8% to cover this crap! Ontarians are WAAAAY to complacent and the government knows it....they've screwed us over and over and OVER again and we do is sit here and complain on forums like this one. And then we shut up and just take it up the A** like good little *itches. I don't know how to start an anti-new-tax-movement. If someone does, let me know. I'm in. I say we gather several thousand people and march in on Toronto and friggin' camp out there until they give in. G20 or no G20.

Yes, I would love to sign petition to stop this money grabbing tactics of Dalton and gang. And of course, once this is in effect even the oppositions have no balls to abolished it. Wish we have the same laws as in Vancouver where you can recall the gov't!

Cash only where possible. Oh your business doesn't take cash? Next contractor, cleaning service, lawyer will do. Lowering my services with any business I can too, as they're certainly not going to be passing on the so called savings to business to me the lowly consumer. Heck I'd cancel the hydro and natural gas if i could buy it for cash instead. Internet's going up 8%, hmmm think I'll drop the speed, TV's going up, don't think I need TMN so much anymore(might be good for me to get outside more anyway). I'll shop in Buffalo when possible, start bringing jerry cans of gas with me too. I like the withdraw $10k from the bank idea, unfortunately I don't have it. If Tim's and McDonalds can convince Ontario to not charge for their products, how come Bell, Rogers, Shaw and Cogeco can't....maybe when they see decrease revenues they'll change their minds. Remember how your mpp and mp supported this raping of the average joe come next election and then give your vote to the Rhino's.....oh wait I think they were taxed out of existence.

Why is the press NOT calling mcguinty the biggest liar in Canadian political history? Not one word of truth has been uttered from that mouth since he was elected, but A-holes STILL vote for him!!

...AND the extra-infuriating and sad part of this is.....
the extra tax they collect won't make a damn bit of difference to the country or the economy in the long run because they're too incompetent to spend it properly. In 10 years they'll have to introduce another new tax because we're still in the hole. Mark my words.

Knowing Ontario, they will let Uncle McGuinty lie to us again about not raising taxes and vote in him again. McGuinty is a tax grabber and the Liberals have never seen a tax they don't like.

Come on Ontario, time to tell McGuinty to stuff it and go back to his Mom. Get him out.

HST, another tax grab and I have Gulf, oil soaked, land to sell if you think the businesses are going to pass on the savings. How stupid does Uncle Dalton think we are.

The real problem with HST, at least in BC, is that the people have spoken...and don't want it, and the Government refuses to listen. Blair Lekstrom, one of the top cabinet ministers in Gordon Campbell's cabinet has just resigned over this issue and left the Liberal Party. When the politicians stop listening to the voters, it is time to take away their signing authority and remove them from the romper room. Don't forget that Campbell's government had just introduced the Carbon Tax, another tax grab..designed to pay for the Olympic over runs, bail outs and excesses ..$Billion for security at the Olympics? Campbell really doesn't care right now about anything but collecting his pension..and since has signalled he is not running again. Thank God.

Ontario voters are so use to their Premier's lies, that they don't care...and deserve what they get.

Patrick

As probably many people in this economy I work two jobs and had three jobs to get by and pay off my student loan and try to get ahead in life. I didn't vote on this HST tax so says the goverment, I don't remeber it being advertisied because man if it was people wouldn't be sitting back and taking it.

I think we need to squash this as we did the collation goverment and send them a message that we are already taxed enough, so who cares that we get a one time HST cheque, you might as well kick us in the nuts, because when you think about it we are paying alot more in tax.

I think Dalton needs to be kicked out of the liberal party, or find the money somewhere else, so we nedd to get a petition rolling now before it's to late.

I'm a single mother and I barely make it now. I don't have $700 to spare in a year. I guess this is going to have to come out of the food budget...

We in Ontario are too complacent. The real effect of the HST added to the Smart Meter/Time of Use Hydro usage will hit home this coming winter, ezpecially Seniors who are likely to change Hydro using habits to the economical off use hours. Opposition parties need to accurately arrive at real numbers of cost to the public and not Political Numbers and hammer the accurate number hame to the Ontario electorate beginning 6 months before the next provincial election. They develope realistic questions for the Public to ASK the liberal contestants when they come knocking to get elected/reeclected. There is NO WAY I couldLiberal this time or any timie soon-they are spending lying fools.

I'm from Nova Scotia where the Liberals didn't get voted in, the NDP did as a total fluke (I think) the NDP had promised not to raise taxes, and what are they doing now? Raising our HST from 13% to 15% just like they said they wouldn't do. So it really doesn't matter who voted for what, for the most part they are all full of CRAP.

The general population is just to stupid and passive to do anything about it, it will be like a third world country here soon and people still won't do anything, except turn to the people who stole everything from them for help, The Government. the gov't will do what the want, and when the want to society, because canadian are spineless, and to lazy to do anything to make life better for themselves. So you made you bed now lay in it, and don't cry about it when it's to late.