Ryanair boss says he'll donate pay-to-pee profits to charity
We promise, really, we’re not trying to slam you over the head with this Ryanair pay-to-pee story.
But after one article last Thursday and another earlier this week, this is like the consumer story that keeps on giving. It’s fascinating on top of baffling on top of mesmerizing.
Like clockwork, enigmatic Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary is back making headlines today. Speaking at a press conference in Brussels, the company boss displayed a “No, no, you got me all wrong!” demeanour Thursday, apparently backpedalling somewhat on his polarizing move to begin charging passengers to relieve themselves onboard the budget airline’s flights.
Facing criticism the world over – including several raised eyebrows into whether it’s even legal to charge passengers to use a restroom 35,000 feet in the air – an exasperated O’Leary continued to maintain his pay-to-pee initiative wasn’t just a cheap money grab.
“The purpose of charging for the toilets is to change peoples’ behaviour,” he reinforced. Ryanair has said, throughout all this, that an ideal air travel scenario would be if passengers were to use the restroom before or after flights.
“Whatever money we make on the toilets, we’ll happily give it away to some charity for incontinent air-travellers,” he added.
O’Leary actually seems to win back some good will here, playing the “This will save customers money” card for the first time, to my knowledge, in the airline’s pay-to-pee PR disaster.
On top of charging for use of the bathrooms, Ryanair has plans to remove two of three onboard toilets to make room for six extra passengers on each of its planes.
“If I add six extra seats,” O’Leary told reporters, “all the fares come down across-the-board by four per cent.”
A new report from BusinessWeek has actually challenged that notion (U.S. manufacturer Boeing might be putting its foot down on retrofitting Ryanair’s planes, as adding six more passengers may not meet air safety regulations), but that’s far from the most staggering nugget from this story.
O’Leary also announced Thursday that, although they’ve since scrapped the plans, the airline once had a strategy to charge travellers based on their weight.
“We have decided we’re not going to (go ahead with that plan) because there’s no way of determining who’s overweight and who’s not,” the CEO said.
Could you imagine that? Charging passengers by how skinny or fat they are! No matter how much sense this might actually make for airline/customer bottom lines, that would’ve caused a hell of an uproar.
Actually, I probably could’ve gotten three, maybe four blog posts outta that baby. Damn.
By Jason Buckland, MSN Money
Posted by: malarkey | Apr 15, 2021 10:19:12 PM
he is NOT back-pedalling, they are STILL going to try to charge to pee. NOR is he giving the profits of the extra charge to charity, there is NO such charity (look it up).....just read what he is being quoted as saying......."whatever money we make on the toilets, we'll happily give it away to some charity for incontinent air-travellers". he is being SARCASTIC and FACETIOUS.
the only extra-charge that HAS been shut down is the discrimination by weight charge....but he tried, didn't he? he is not trying to do this for the good of the public, or the retraining of bladders everywhere. extra seats mean extra cash for him. why not run that as a headline?? rather than the incorrect and frankly misleading headline that hangs above your misleading article....imagine what would happen if this writer was in the politics section!?!
Posted by: Steve | Apr 16, 2021 2:00:10 PM
What we are going to need is a LAW stipulating that ALL CHARGES must be listed in the headline price with these airlines. It has been shown again and again that the airlines cannot be trusted to regulate or govern themselves.
Full disclosure of the full price and no tricks of payments (RYANAIR) or anything else to inflate the headline ticket price.
Posted by: R Allan | Apr 17, 2021 5:18:18 PM
Mr O'Leary is either smoking something funny, or is just manipulating the gullible media for free publicity, or he just has no clue about modern passenger airplanes. If he actually knew ANYTHING about an aircraft toilet, he would know that they are highly susceptible to clogging. Passports and wads of paper towel routinely block the too small pipes, and shut down the vacuum toilet systems. Perhaps he has never talked to any of his mechanics or engineers, or considered the cost of his aircraft sitting on the ground because of non-operational systems.
Under normal operating procedures, a minimum number of toilets MUST be available, by law, before takeoff, depending on seats filled, and length of flight. A COMPLETELY clogged toilet SYSTEM will CERTAINLY be the result of disgruntled passengers with caffeine and alcohol boosted personal exhaust systems having to pay to relieve their most basic human functions. I hesitate to mention the STENCH of brown-stained carpets and seats sure to result from this (mud) pie in the sky idea!
This idea is FOLLY on the grandest scale, equivalent to the plight of recent winter stormbound passengers held 13 hours on the tarmac, going nowhere, as the airline management played their fiddles.
Posted by: DMS | Apr 17, 2021 6:57:18 PM
Who is this guy to tell us as to which charities we are to support and to what is going to be done with the income made....a little food, housing, etc. is much better than a free plane ride.......
Posted by: mark bint | Apr 17, 2021 7:19:35 PM
This guy is full of pee
Posted by: Ela Barto | Apr 18, 2021 8:38:32 AM
They won't need the extra six seats, most people will avoid using their services. I definitely would not fly with Ryanair.
Posted by: Donald Grimard | Apr 18, 2021 9:07:16 AM
He might as well charge to pee up there we have to pay to pee in our own homes with the sewer and water prices
Posted by: Anthony Maw | Apr 18, 2021 9:49:38 AM
I'd hate to the be cleaners!!! You know it's gonna happen!
Posted by: Rick | Apr 18, 2021 10:29:57 AM
Real smart !! lol.
If that one toilet gets plugged are they going to bring a bucket?
What if somebody was out of money?
Every time I think I heard it all somebody else comes up with a bigger stupid idea. Who in their right mind would fly with pay for pee?
After reading this there is no way in hell that I would ever consider using that airline.
Posted by: Les Field | Apr 18, 2021 12:08:06 PM
Remember the good old days where you had to use a dime for privacy in public washrooms - It didn't last and the airline won't last either if it persists on charging for the necessities of life
Posted by: Gordi | Apr 18, 2021 12:13:56 PM
This is beyond ridiculous!!! Someone should make Michael O'Leary try this himself on a trans continental flight!!! Incontinent Charity......WTF???? He thinks he has the right to decide where MY charity money is going??? Not to mention there probably isnt one in existence!!
I would rather fly somewhere else than give this greedy creep my business.
As if the airlines are already not very good at charging for services that once- upon- a- time were included in the cost of doing business....
Posted by: Dave | Apr 18, 2021 1:00:10 PM
AIRLINE SHOULD BE RENAMED “Unsanitary Air” or “Toilet Grab” INSTEAD OF RyanAir.
- Flu/virus/bacteria infection: Removing toilets to make room for more seats...this is definitely a safety sanitary hazard; what if the passengers were all infected by a virus/bacteria resulting in diarrhea, trapped 35000 ft with just one toilet...I wouldn't want to be on that flight.
- Dirty Unsanitary toilets: I guess flight attendants would have to be trained on how to clean and disinfect toilets for scenarios where somebody shit all over the floor or puke all over.
- Smells from over usage: Smells coming from the loft for over usage would be another problem...those poor passengers around the toilet area.
- People that can’t afford toilet usage: Poor families or single mothers/parents flying with kids that need to use the washroom often...could turn out to be expensive...I wouldn't want to be sitting beside a kid that's trying to hold it in...or sit in a seat that a kid peed in because he/she tried to hold it in.
- Money grab: This is bullshit that the CEO is claiming that all the money will go to charity… who’ll track this. Are they going to create a charity and dump the money back to themselves?
- The main point is that toilets were installed for sanitary purposes...removing toilets or creating a barrier preventing people from using ...the air line should call it self "Unsanitary Air" instead of "RyanAir".
Posted by: ernst lange | Apr 18, 2021 1:45:34 PM
CRAPAIR -- CHEAP SEATS , ( BRING OWN PORTAPOTTY)
Posted by: Elizabeth | Apr 18, 2021 1:50:26 PM
food for thought:
-Pay to use the toilet or relieve your self in other areas of the plane
-Pee in a bag and leave it under the seat for flight attendant to clean up
-Pee in a cup and call the flight attendant to dispose of it :)
-let your child pee in a corner of the plane so you can spend the money on snacks instead
-if you get a ticket, argue it was life or death...you have to choose to pay for food instead of paying to pee or shit
-lobby so your tax dollars don't go to charities that accept money from this airline
-cites use this as a president to implement pay to use public toilets...actually, this wouldn't be bad, less taxes to pay
- poor people are not allowed to shit or pee in public places
- people include the "let's see when in the plane you can pee or shit other than the toilet" on their "to do" vacation list
- this list goes on and on :))
Posted by: sito | Apr 18, 2021 2:28:07 PM
This man is so greede that he would drain peaplo and scewed him self
Posted by: Piss off | Apr 18, 2021 3:07:06 PM
Dose he even have an idea what the f*** is he talking about ,and how some one who is that stupid can even find a job
Posted by: Yanni | Apr 18, 2021 3:23:39 PM
Even considering it(which they're doing) is and has already lost them customers or potential customers. As some have already said here, there's no way in hell I'd use this airlane. =)
Posted by: Iron Bladder | Apr 18, 2021 4:26:03 PM
Awww, lay off O'Leary already, he's just trying to raise money for his next business trip dubbed, "Up sh*t creek without an airline..."
I wonder if they'll have different rates if you're using the restroom for #1 and #2... how much are they going to charge per square of toilet paper? And is there a surcharge for how many "links" or "pieces" of #2? Are the stewards going to need to verify usage before flushage? What if two people produce as much waste as one person, can they qualify for a 2-for-1 promotion? Will the airline staff have a taxable benefit added to their wages for using restrooms while on the job? Are they going to institute a 2 drink minimum onboard to ensure enough passengers are taking advange of the one on board bathroom?
Well, they're already talked about charging for carry-on... was only a matter of time before some idiot talked about a charge for leave-behind...
Anyone working at Ryanair,... start looking for another job... that kind of a public statement, instituted or not, will cause a bankrupcy... if they are trying to save costs or increase profits by even proposing this outloud in a closed door meeting, let alone publicly, what other areas are they scrimping on (safety?)... one thing is certain, safety aside, their stock is in for a freefall, plummet, and eventual crash...
Posted by: Jean guy Filiatrault | Apr 18, 2021 5:41:01 PM
Is it legal to pee on the floor?
Posted by: ali | Apr 18, 2021 7:15:57 PM
i think this is just plain stupid and ridiculous, these bastards allways try to get money. i hope they go out of buisness fucking loser get a life you rich filthy son of a bitch!