Do temporary foreign workers steal jobs and depress wages?
Despite the Conservative government's new employment insurance rules that aim to fill vacant jobs with unemployed Canadians instead, the number of temporary foreign workers in Canada has never been higher.
Canadian companies hire thousands of foreign workers each year to fill jobs that locals simply won't or can't afford to do. But is that really a solution?
"Employers will always be ready to find workers overseas who are eager to come to Canada and willing to work long hours for low pay. And under the Conservatives, boosting economic growth will always eclipse protecting workers’ rights," notes the Toronto Star.
"Since Prime Minister Stephen Harper assumed power in 2006, the number of foreign temporary workers admitted into Canada has grown by 40 per cent. The temporary worker stream is now larger than the stream of permanent workers intending to set down roots and become citizens," the Star maintains
And that labour tsunami could have a dramatic impact on wages for Canadians, particularly if you look beyond Ontario's agricultural sector.
Labour groups are unhappy with the changes, of course.
Employers are "are going to get a discount. They'll be able to bring foreign workers in and pay them less than what they would get if they were Canadian and living in this province, which is just a terrible decision and will drive wages down and keep them down," says the Alberta Federation of Labour's Nancy Furlong.
Do temporary foreign workers depress wages? Or are they simply willing to do jobs that native-born Canadians are not?
By Gordon Powers, MSN Money


Posted by: Mr. Negative | Jun 14, 2012 9:22:30 AM
The answer is no.....Corportations and employers give away jobs and depress wages!
Posted by: Mr. Negative | Jun 14, 2012 9:23:54 AM
You actually think any employees foreign or not want to work for less money and longer hours?
Posted by: SP | Jun 14, 2012 9:39:49 AM
Have to agree with Mr. Neg.
The job's aren't being stolen, CDN workers are just being undercut. Why don't we pay the migrants wages the new pay level, but require the employers to pay the difference between what they are paying the migrants with what the average Canadian earns doing a similar job +10% to revenue Canada to reduce our national debt.
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That's something everyone could agree on. The employers could have the 'hard working' migrants and Canada could have the income that is otherwise being sliced away.
But we know that won't happen. Too many brown envelopes being passed around between 'friends'.
Posted by: tiredncrankey | Jun 14, 2012 2:05:48 PM
Yes they do, my work has exclusively hired imigrants for the purpose of getting the same job done for about $10 less and hour. Then they lower everyones wages... even the immigrants wages. You can't complain because there is no work out there to get, all the money is getting tied up where it doesn't do anyone any good in the 1%'s bank accounts.
I still say the measure of how well a buisiness is doing needs to change, it needs to be more about how it's employees live vs. how much we can get to the shareholders if we lay off X amount of people to make the books look good. I look at a company like apple and think it is ther worst thing going right now, so many people working so hard with only a handful profiting, there is no reason a company like that needs to outsource to china and pay low wages the mark up on their electrionics is almost criminal.
Posted by: nick | Jun 14, 2012 9:24:03 PM
Divide and conquer. I know of a place where they hire ton of temporary workers and give them a vote (no one knows how/when this got written into the contract) like the union members on a quick, small cash bonus or a percent increase for the year. The temps want the quick money, works out better for them. The company says thank you and the temps leave, while the union workers get a lot less than they voted for. Some union members hate the temps for it, but it's only self-interest (like the union, the company...).
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Posted by: the dark | Jun 16, 2012 8:41:45 AM
Welcome to the slave nation where the rule is sell out your own people and bring in someone elses.
Posted by: Kit Kat | Jun 16, 2012 12:19:45 PM
I would say they will depress the wages for a small group of workers, so it would be useful for the government to implement so kind of tax on each foreign worker employed, so that slower wages to the foreign workers will not affect the wages of this small group of workers.
Posted by: Jim | Jun 16, 2012 4:14:17 PM
The Government needs to stop immigration as this does NOT look like Canada anymore and those they let in drain our public healthcare systems because they couldn't get proper medical care from their homeland plus they enter illegally more time than legally.
Most are rude and ignore the laws of our land and bring their primitive traditions and religious beliefs with them and try and change OUR customs to suit them.
This political correct crap needs to stop and immigrants need to adopt our customs not the other way around
Very rarely do they speak English never mind trying our second language, "French" !
This all started thanks to Pierre Trudeau!
Posted by: Mom of Three | Jun 16, 2012 9:50:07 PM
I don't know about other industries, but I can comment on the live-in caregiver program. We have had two nannies under this program. As an employer, I am responsible for the cost to get them here (whether in Canada already or from overseas). I cannot "try" them out or have a probationary period, so basically I am taking my chances if we aren't a good match. They live in my home. I can deduct a maximum of $336/month for room and board, which hasn't gone up in at least 3 years, although the cost of electricity, gas, food, basically everything needed for a household has increased in cost significantly. The nannies still get raises - mandated by the government - every year. Believe me, they KNOW their rights and they feel free to quote them to me at every turn. They are well protected. A foreign live-in nanny ends up costing significantly more than a dayhome or other childcare options. I am tired of the regulations, the expense, the hassle, having someone else live in my home... we are DONE with nannies. I am tired of giving our nanny a day off because I have taken it off from my work, only to get charged with overtime for the 15 minutes I was late one day. I am tired of trying to be considerate and buying things for her that I normally don't buy (we don't drink coffee, for example, but I always buy some for her with my groceries) but having her bill me for the slurpee she bought my daughter at the convenience store. These nannies are ALL about the money and they know EXACTLY what the rules are. Let the live-in caregiver program die... or make it cheaper and easier to participate in it. Until then, we are going with Canadians for childcare only. I would advise anyone else to do the same!
Posted by: Earle | Jun 16, 2012 10:01:13 PM
You goobers brought this crap on yourselves. Between the better than thow, oh i wouldn't do that job it's demeaning(and welfare pays better). Or i'm only gonna put half effort into what i do. Stop bitching assholes.
Posted by: Concerned | Jun 16, 2012 10:01:35 PM
Mass Immigration is having a serious impact on this country. Western Europe is now facing a real threat because of that. Immigrants don't integrate. Out health care & social systems are threatened also. But like the article says: The Feds are more concerned with economic growth while forsaking all else including the social implications!
Posted by: Immigrant | Jun 16, 2012 11:46:58 PM
Do you folks have adopted traditions of Native Americans? Immigrants have helped in appreciating real estate value in canada created more demand for goods. Many of them pay more in taxes than what canada born citizens earn.
Posted by: Steve | Jun 17, 2012 6:48:03 AM
to immigrant,
Just because you post something does not make it true I am sure a very small percentage of immigrants pay more taxes then canadians. However the vast majority do not and are here to milk the country for all they can then bring in there family for free health care which is a policy I think is ridiculous. I have no issue with bringing in qualified and educated people to fill skilled jobs but that should not entitle you to drag your family here as well. I f you make a choice to emmigrate you make a choice to leave your family behind and intigrate into canadian society not to move here and continue to follow backward and repressive customs of your old country. The people that act this way and take over complete areas in order to live among their own are not looked upon fondly by regular canadians. we let you come here to improve your life not degrade ours.
Posted by: Cris | Jun 17, 2012 4:18:57 PM
Steve,
Too bad that, as a Canadian born here you haven't gone to school to learn your OWN language properly. Yet, you have the guts to judge the immigrants. No, you beg the immigrants to come into this country. And many of them are more skilled and educated than you.
But, hey, you keep barking all the way, because we don't take your jobs. You lose yours by incompetence, laziness and arrogance.
Posted by: Immigrant | Jun 18, 2012 12:36:45 PM
Well I forgot to say couple of things, I love Canada, I love people here most of them are were warm hearted people. Integration is very important those who come here should learn good things here and of course they bring some very good family values with them.
Having said that no one is perfect. I came here 8 years back. I was willing to work, I left Toronto to go to Fort Mcmurray. I found lots of immigrants there. If people from other parts of world can come and work there why can't people from New Brunswick, NS or Nfld or PEI. They would rather live on EI. But someone has to pay for that.
It is land of opportudnities. There is still lots to develop and accomplish. there are lots of opportunities for people willing to work.
Posted by: Robyn | Jun 19, 2012 5:40:56 PM
Boy oh boy Cris, you're one heck of an angry fellow. You're assuming that Canadians are incompetent, lazy and arrogant. Well, you know what they say about the word ASS-U-ME.
Take anger management classes instead it might do you some good.
Posted by: Raven | Jun 20, 2012 3:05:37 PM
Well said immigrant! Many soon forget how their ancestors arrived, to escape oppressive governments and hope to start a better life for themselves. No policy or program is perfect. Alberta is a example of how these programs are impacting the youth or anyone willing to work for minimum wage. A friend had to shut down his landscape business because he could not find any workers worth having for under $25/hr. The same employer also declared he would not hire anyone under 25. Why? Because gen. 'X box' expects to be paid a excellent wage with no experience or willingness to work hard.
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Posted by: P D Graham | Sep 11, 2012 12:41:46 PM
This whole immigration mess has become a burden on our health care system in particular, just go and visit a clinic and the place is full of immigrants, I don't blame them for using the systems, but what about our own citizens, its becoming difficult to access the systems we have paid for all our working lives. There needs to be a complete cleanup of the immigration system from top to bottom,
I see that Jason Kenny is attempting to do some cleanup now, but he continues to face a hostile
group that is opposed to any such thing, continue to revamp the system Mr Kenny, if we don't take some action now, its our children, my grand children who will pay the price!!.
PDGraham.